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hudebnik ([personal profile] hudebnik) wrote2016-05-21 07:56 am
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A liberal's discomfort with trans-gender

Unlike some people bothered by the trans-gendered, I wasn't raised in a "Mad Men" world, and I don't pine for it. I was raised in the feminist backlash against a "Mad Men" world: we watched "All In the Family" after dinner, and I nearly memorized the album "Free To Be You And Me". I was brought up to believe that your physical sex should have no bearing on your choice of toys, occupations, social and economic roles, clothing, etc.

Which leaves me puzzled when I hear of people who decide they "should have been born male" or "should have been born female". Why should it matter, for any purpose other than excretion and sex? (Two activities in which, combined, I expect to spend perhaps 1% of my life, leaving 99% for activities that have nothing to do with the shape of my sex organs.)

I took Home Economics in junior high school, because I liked cooking and wanted to do it better, and because I didn't know much about sewing but thought a competent person should. I knew I would be teased for it -- I already got a lot of abuse, and accusations of being "gay", for the twin crimes of being small and smart -- but I thought it was the right and brave thing to do. If I were in junior high school today and made the same choice for the same reasons, would I be diagnosed with gender dysphoria and advised to consider hormone treatment or even surgery? If, furthermore, I were exploring my teen-aged sexuality and found some attraction to other boys, would that seal the diagnosis? I certainly hope not!

When trans people win the battle to change their sex and be accepted in society as their new sex, it tells me we lost the war: your physical sex does determine your role in society after all. The trans movement seem to me to be working very hard to escape from prison... so they can check themselves into a different prison, when I would have preferred to raze both prisons to the ground.

To use a different metaphor, gender reassignment strikes me as a hardware solution to a software problem. I have a spreadsheet program and need a Web browser, so instead of installing a Web browser, I change the CPU to one which interprets the instructions of a spreadsheet program as those of a web browser. It just seems terribly inelegant and inefficient.

Mind you, I'll fight vociferously for your right to declare yourself male or female, and be treated as such; see here and here. But I'm deeply disappointed at your need to do so.

Comments, particularly from transgendered people and their loved ones, are welcome: I don't understand the motivations, and I really want to.

The story so far...

[identity profile] hudebnik.livejournal.com 2016-05-23 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to take the perilous step of checking whether I understand these various arguments by re-stating them. I almost certainly won't get any of them 100% right; I'm hoping for about 80%.

I tried to argue that the differences between men and women are so superficial and insignificant that trying to switch from one to the other should be unnecessary.

[livejournal.com profile] mosinging1986 "agreed" by arguing almost the exact opposite: that the differences between men and women are so deep and fundamental that trying to switch from one to the other is not only impossible but insane.

[livejournal.com profile] siderea and [livejournal.com profile] metahacker pointed out a number of things I didn't know, wasn't sure of, or hadn't considered:

  • "trans" does not necessarily imply a change to physical genitalia, only a change from one "gender identity" to the other;

  • "gender identity" is not merely about public presentation, but internal experience, how your body feels to live in (e.g. secondary sexual characteristics), etc.

  • "being born as the wrong sex" is not necessarily the experience of many trans people, but a narrative they had to fit into twenty or thirty years ago.

  • Many (most?) people are perfectly happy to identify with a particular gender and conform to most of its expectations; this is not necessarily evidence of antediluvian-patriarchal thinking on their part.

  • Sex hormones really do strongly affect the brain and a wide variety of personality characteristics, so it's hard to tease apart hormones from personality.